New Intel System Help

[wiz]

I have always built amd systems but i want to build an intel one this time around. I am looking to build a system comparable to an Am2 core2 5600+ I don't know what that is in an intel? i need motherboard, video card, hard drive, chip, and memory, i have a 430w Thermaltake psu i think it is big enough? Any suggestions as you guys seam to now whats good and whats not. Thanks in advance for any help in this build.

[RickyTick]

Welcome Wiz.

You didn't give a budget, so I'll just make some suggestions and we can go from there.

High-end machine.
Intel E8400 processor
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA24501&RSKU=BA24501
Intel P35 motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030
Nvidia 8800GTS 512 video card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130325
Western Digital Hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218
Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098
or this ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145034
A better Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001

What do you think?

[wiz]

Rick i am sorry about that i am looking to build a machine similar to an amd am2 5200 which is 2.7 ghz. I don't play many games so a high end video card i don't need i want dual core chip 2 gig ram, motherboard with ide plus sata 3.0. Question are intels faster than the same ghz amd?

[RickyTick]

Oh, ok. No prob.

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059
CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116052
Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130334

Stick with my previous suggestions for ram and hard drive.

I'm not a Techie guy, so I don't know details about amd vs intel, but the ghz is measured differently between the two. It has something to do with the fsb I think. So a 2.7ghz amd and a 2.7ghz intel are very different. Mr Wise Monkey could shed a little light here.

[The Wise Monkey]

Clock speed really doesn't mean a whole lot with computers nowadays - the architecture of the CPU makes a lot bigger difference. AMD always said that their naming scheme was equivalent to that clock speed in an Intel processor e.g. a AMD 5200 is supposedly equivalent in speed to an 5.2GHz Intel Pentium processor. However, this has never been the case, and certainly isn't now.

In this case, something equivalent to an AMD 5200+ in overall speed would be an Intel E2100 or something like that. Actually, for the same price as the 5200 you can get an Intel E2220, which would be a bit faster.

[RickyTick]

And there he is right on time. Thank you sir. :D

[wiz]

How is the E6550 it is in the right price range?

[RickyTick]

Its $170 vs $80. Big difference, but its a lot faster.

[wiz]

Auy chip in between those at a good price and speed?

[RickyTick]

Sure. Look at some of the E4xxx series processors.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115031
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115032

[wiz]

How would these stack up against an amd 5200 just to compare?

[RickyTick]

Go here and click on Charts. You can put in the 5200 and then any other processor and different benchmarks to see how they compare.
http://www.tomshardware.com/us/

[wiz]

Rick thanks for that site it was a big help. My next question is video card the one you suggest is a little pricey do you have a second choice?

[RickyTick]

Sure, here's one that is a lot less and still a solid mid-range card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130085

Now the beauty of this card is that its EVGA. They have a "Step-Up" program that allows you the opportunity to use this card for 90 days and "upgrade" to a better card if you want to. Its your option. You would have to pay the difference in the price of the cards and shipping.

[wiz]

Rick as far as a chip i am looking at the E4699 Allendale but as with all those intel chips it say Hyper-Threading Support= no what does that mean i thought all chips did Hyper-Threading?

[RickyTick]

Hyper threading is a patented term by Intel and is supposed to allow multiple threads to run simultaneously. I don't know the technical details. Wise Monkey is the tech-geek around here.

I thought it referred to Pentium 4 processors. I'm not sure.

Try a google search, I'm sure it will turn up something.

[The Wise Monkey]

Rick as far as a chip i am looking at the E4699 Allendale but as with all those intel chips it say Hyper-Threading Support= no what does that mean i thought all chips did Hyper-Threading?



Hyper-threading is an example of SMT (simultaneous multi-threading) which improves computational speed in certain situations. While the technology was introduced for Pentium 4s, the Xeon processors use it as well. However, it was fazed out for the Qxxxx and Exxxx processors, as it was criticised for being very energy inefficient.

However, a newer take on SMT is present in the latest Nehalem 45nm CPUs (E8xxx) allowing for a slight improvement in performance.




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